Oppo I Have A Boner

"Margin Of Error" (marginoferror) 12/04/2014 at 20:34 • Filed to: Panthers

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Should I ?

It's a 14 hours ride from home, but I think it's worth it

A true 7 series competitor for a budget price ? Hell yes.

Any Opponauts with some Lincoln LS expertise ?

Yes, or YES ?

thedevilinside > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:36

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Yes. I wanted an LS V8, but then realized no manual was made. :-(

Margin Of Error > thedevilinside 12/04/2014 at 20:37

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Manual swap is easy, though.

My citroen won't start > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:37

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Not sure about that comparison, but I never trust ads with just one picture.

CB > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:38

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Get more pictures first. Or see if an Opponaut nearby can check it out. I know we have a few around there.

TDogg > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:38

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100% YES

Margin Of Error > My citroen won't start 12/04/2014 at 20:38

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Maybe I can ask the seller for more pictures before starting my journey.

TheHondaBro > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:38

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I also have a boner, but probably in a different way.

thebigbossyboss > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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Where you at? Thunder Bay or something?

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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I have one AMA

 > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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Is this a V8 or a 6?

Also why is it filed under Panthers? LS is not a Panther.

Lastly LS is not even same size as a 7 series. It's more of a 5 series competitor.

Thunderface > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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thedevilinside > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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Is it? I never looked into it.

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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No it's very hard/impossible.

Margin Of Error > CB 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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Good idea, any Ontarians Opponauts out there ?

Vicente Esteve > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:39

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manual was in fact made, but only on the V6 models. Finding one though is HARD

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:40

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Also this is a V6, and it's way overpriced. HELL NO.

Margin Of Error > GeorgeyBoy 12/04/2014 at 20:40

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Hoew do you know ?

Manual was an option on these cars.

Margin Of Error > Vicente Esteve 12/04/2014 at 20:41

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This is a V6 model

CB > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:41

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I think Cletus lives around there. And I used to live in the area (I'll be back in about two weeks), but would probably not be the best bet for checking out a car.

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:41

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Only on the first gen v6. Trust me it is not possible.

Jesse Shaffer > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:41

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Decisions are hard to make in that condition.

I'll see myself out.

Margin Of Error > CB 12/04/2014 at 20:42

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I don't trust Cletus. He's a bit sketchy, but that's just my oppopinion.

Margin Of Error > Jesse Shaffer 12/04/2014 at 20:43

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I don't understand what you mean, please elaborate.

Thnaks you

Margin Of Error > GeorgeyBoy 12/04/2014 at 20:44

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Can you elaborate ?

Margin Of Error > thebigbossyboss 12/04/2014 at 20:45

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New Brunswick, Moncton.

Vicente Esteve > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:46

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Oh!

I recommend either the manual V6 or the V8.

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:46

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Yes, to make it work you must find the Getrag 5 speed with the same bolt pattern as the 3.0 v6. Only 500 ish made.. Actually I think the bolt pattern is different on the GenII v6 so scratch that. You would have to find a gen1 3.o engine and trans. The computers are completely different so it wouldnt work. You would then need to find a 3.0 Gen1 manual pcm which are rare as shit. The FEM and REm would no longer work. If you ever miraculously got it to run nothing would work. Impossible.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:48

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Electronics are already a nightmare. Transmission tunnel. Finding an adapter to mate a trans to the motor. Interior trim. Did I mention the electronics?

thebigbossyboss > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:48

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Oh. I have only been as far as Oromocto :P

Ottawa-Oromocto is about my limit for straight driving. I was very ready to quit when I finally arrived.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:48

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Don't.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:49

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Also not a Panther in any way.

Margin Of Error > thebigbossyboss 12/04/2014 at 20:50

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Mississauga is where it's at

I want to move there one day.

Margin Of Error > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 12/04/2014 at 20:51

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Close.

American steel

Body on frame

Manual as an option.

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:52

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Where are you getting your info?

Margin Of Error > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 12/04/2014 at 20:52

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Can I ask why ?

"Don't" is pretty easy to say without FACTS.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:53

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Decisions are hard to make when you have a boner in hand

Margin Of Error > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 12/04/2014 at 20:54

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Well, you are entitled to your own oppopinions.

Margin Of Error > GeorgeyBoy 12/04/2014 at 20:56

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Jalopnik.com and crownvic.net

Margin Of Error > Thunderface 12/04/2014 at 20:57

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Thank you !

Margin Of Error > GeorgeyBoy 12/04/2014 at 20:57

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Tell me -anything- EVERYTHING !

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:59

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Well the Ls is not body on frame. American steel?, heck it has a lot of aluminium. Manual as an option? on a couple years only very little were ever made. It's more British than anything.

GeorgeyBoy > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:59

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They're terrible. Well most are.

Aero > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 20:59

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I don't think you quite know what the LS is. It's not a Panther, it's actually related to the Jag S-Type. Also, it was a competitor to the 5-series, not 7.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 21:00

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My mom owns an 03, the electronics were supplied along with the platform and powertrain basis were supplied by Jaguar. The electronic issues are so bad that the electrical engineer of the car should be tried at the Hague for violating the Geneva Convention.

Aero > GeorgeyBoy 12/04/2014 at 21:01

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The 1st gen is a maintenance headache, but my 2nd gen was quite reliable.

Margin Of Error > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 12/04/2014 at 21:02

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Does your mom still owns it ?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 21:03

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Unibody.

Jaguar platform.

Smaller than the Panthers by a significant margin.

DOCH V8 not related at all to the Ford Mod motor family.

Aluminum body panels.

IRS.

Good handling.

Not at all reliable.

Margin Of Error > Aero 12/04/2014 at 21:03

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GeorgeyBoy > Aero 12/04/2014 at 21:03

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Mine has been pretty decent as well. Very few nice examples left though. Most of them I see are neglected and run into the ground. I only tell people to touch 06s if they really really want one.

Margin Of Error > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 12/04/2014 at 21:04

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So it's a Jaaaaag ?

Even better

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 21:05

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Yes and about once every 3 weeks it throws a code. Oh, and the 5-speed automatic transmission is absolute garbage, unless you like feeling like your riding with a kid trying to learn how to shift.

Margin Of Error > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 12/04/2014 at 21:09

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I was just asking for advice, not to be ridiculed.

Aero > GeorgeyBoy 12/04/2014 at 21:10

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Mine was an '04, but I recommend any of the 2nd gens if somebody asks. I've owned three first gens over the years, and only one of them wasn't a complete nightmare to maintain. It's a shame that the reliability sucked, the chassis is brilliant.

Aero > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 21:11

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Nope, just facts.

GeorgeyBoy > Aero 12/04/2014 at 21:13

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Yeah really is a shame. Got my first CEL in my 03 last week. I've had it for 2 years and it think I'm ready to sell going on 90,000 miles. I just don't feel like dealing with the cooling system. Luckily I got the COPs attended to while under the factory extended warranty, very little money into mine.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 21:16

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Not trying to ridicule you, just trying to help educate you speaking from my experience with one.

Aero > GeorgeyBoy 12/04/2014 at 21:17

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I've been through all the "normal" stuff with my various cars. The cooling system issues are quite easy to fix on the 2nd gen, mostly because the hydraulic fan was eliminated. My '04 only needed a new coolant reservoir at 150k miles. All of the plastic lines were still holding up well at that point, but it was at that point that I sold it.

Margin Of Error > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 12/04/2014 at 21:17

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By the way, Mr. Maxyenklo, You gave me my first chance as a writer on Jalopnik, and I owe you my life for that, but I feel that we are having a kerfuffle right now and it's far from good. That's not what I want.

I will read again what you said and sleep on it, I may have misundertood what you were trying to sy.

I really hope we can speak again in the morning, because I admire you a lot.

Sorry if, by some unfortunate mistake, I hurt your feelings.

Margin Of Error > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 12/04/2014 at 21:20

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Okay, I accept your excuses, let's make peace now. I feel bad about this right now.

Margin Of Error > TDogg 12/04/2014 at 21:27

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Thanks for being a true enthusiast.

thebigbossyboss > Margin Of Error 12/04/2014 at 21:58

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Meh. I would never want to live there. So city, so boring. Ottawa is much nicer, a lot more wilderness nearby.